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Post by Schmleff on Aug 2, 2011 17:04:45 GMT -5
I had a peek at it at Airventure. It uses a forged magnesium case the is beefed up (see pictures) and is supposed to be stronger than a cast aluminum case. 2600CC, 94 bore and stroke 90hp at 2800rpm up to 150 with turbo. Custom heads with lots of huge fins. down firing exhaust Available in complete form as an LSA approved engine for $10k       |
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Post by n3480h on Aug 2, 2011 17:45:21 GMT -5
Aargh! I see 5 red X's.
Tom
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Post by o2koold on Aug 2, 2011 19:21:50 GMT -5
I would love to see this engine  . Jeff, do you have a link or website for the company that is making this? Scott R |
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Post by oahupilot on Aug 2, 2011 19:57:17 GMT -5
wow 10k thats a lot of dollars for beetle motor.
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Post by Schmleff on Aug 2, 2011 21:16:47 GMT -5
I will have to figure out what is up with the Picts when I can get to a computer. Sorry bout that.
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Post by n3480h on Aug 2, 2011 22:13:57 GMT -5
No problem, Jeff. Ironically, the five red X's match the ones in my checkbook when I think about spending $10K, lol.
Tom
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Post by Schmleff on Aug 3, 2011 11:50:53 GMT -5
There you have it. Had to figure out the image thing.
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Post by n3480h on Aug 3, 2011 17:31:12 GMT -5
That's some seious finnage. Any clue on the weight?
Tom
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Post by oahupilot on Aug 4, 2011 2:40:15 GMT -5
It occurred to me that every so many years vw aero conversion go up in displacement. 1600 to 1900? then 2180, 2300 and now 2600. Figure if you wait a little longer some one will just stick a prop on porsche 911 3.0 litter motor as the next step in the displacement war. Given the increase in price you might just be able to buy a 911 3.0 motor cheaper then aero vw conversion.
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Post by 4trade on Aug 4, 2011 3:07:56 GMT -5
You can buy 0 hours O-200 for that price at barnstormers. "beefed" case mean that they both weight probably same and O -200 is real reliable aircraft engine.
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Post by hans on Aug 4, 2011 3:44:11 GMT -5
other improvements have been created in the past. For instance, JPX of France created a VW-derived aero engine that sported very nice finning on both cylinders and heads:  It's not too difficult to imagine where Jabiru got their inspiration from, isn't it? Too bad JPX is no longer in business, at least not as far as their VW derivative aero engines is concerned... Hans |
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Post by peterzabriskie on Aug 4, 2011 7:50:01 GMT -5
other improvements have been created in the past. For instance, JPX of France created a VW-derived aero engine that sported very nice finning on both cylinders and heads: It's not too difficult to imagine where Jabiru got their inspiration from, isn't it? Too bad JPX is no longer in business, at least not as far as their VW derivative aero engines is concerned... Hans Bummer that is a sweeet VW.  Did JPX also want $10k when they were in business? -Pete |
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Post by lqbanotxano on Aug 4, 2011 8:28:22 GMT -5
When people ask me why I went with a Continental....the main reason I give them is, "THE PRICE" I have about $4,500.00 dollars tied up in my overhauled Continental C85-8 engine.
1. Basket case A65-8 engine $500.00 (found it for sale on the Sonerai site)
2. Grind & Nitrite crank $360.00.
3. Used C85 pistons, rods $80.00.
4. Used O200 cylinders plus having them overhauled & yellow tagged $1,200.00.
5. New 2 Slick mags,plugs & harness $950.00.
6. Reground cam & airboat lifters $180.00
7. Overhauling, reinforcing & line boring case $750.00.
8. Cylinder Rings, overhaul kit, gaskets etc. $200.00
9. Odds & ends about $200.00.
My C85-8 Continental engine has 85 “Clysdale” HP at 2575RPM at, 2750RPM about 90HP (if I want to run it that hard). The engine has NO electrics & must be hand propped. It weighs about 180 LBS on the plane…close to what a 2180VW weighs with starter & alternator. There are 2 important considerations… you must be a good scrounger & must learn to work on the engines yourself.
The VW variants are getting way too expensive for me….or maybe EVERYTHING is.
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Post by hans on Aug 4, 2011 12:09:53 GMT -5
Pete,
JPX are still in business, but are not into VW-derivatives anymore. Currently they are concentrating on smaller 2-stroke jobs. If I remember correctly, they priced their VW-based engines on par (or almost so) with Limbach, Sauer and Co.
I once contacted the company that now supplies spare parts for JPX VW engines, only to learn that the fancy cylinder head and cylinders on the picture can not be supplied. The reason was that that photo showed a new prototype (the JPX 75-something) that was never produced in quantities...
cheers
Hans
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Post by o2koold on Aug 4, 2011 21:56:51 GMT -5
Ivan,
I hear you on the high cost any engine. But I still think the VW is the least expensive way. I just priced out the parts what would be a firewall forward zero time 2276 package, including 044 heads, 4340 crank, 35 amp alt., mag, starter, carb, accessory/motor mount, F1 hub and a cam that should make around 90hp@3600rpm for around $5000. I did forget a few things, but that could be offset be looking for things on sale and unused previously owned parts like the carbs and accessories. and using 041 heads.
Granted, your Continental makes for a better climbing and faster plane. The only fly Sonerai I have seen had a A-80 in it. He did a low fly-by at 180 IAS. Very pretty.
Scott R
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. Jeff, do you have a link or website for the company that is making this?
Did JPX also want $10k when they were in business?